In a recent twist of events, the incomparable Joe Rogan decided to stir the pot, claiming that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were more proficient at deporting people than the Trump administration. Now, anyone who’s followed Rogan knows he’s not exactly your typical political commentator, so throwing shade at an administration known for its firm stance on immigration naturally set off a firestorm. But hold your horses, folks—has Uncle Joe really got it right?

The Trump administration quickly fired back, suggesting that Rogan may need to check his facts—or better yet, his definition of deportation. During Obama’s reign, they claimed, the numbers got a boost by counting people turned away at the border as deportations. Imagine showing up to a party, being bounced from the door, and then told you were politely escorted out. Doesn’t quite sit right, does it? Trump’s folks argue that they’ve spearheaded interior deportations and that their numbers aren’t just window dressing.

But the immigration debate didn’t stop there. Rogan had more zingers, labeling some MAGA loyalists as “dorks.” Now, whether you’re a card-carrying member of the cool kids’ club or a self-proclaimed nerd, one thing’s for certain: the political landscape’s just as diverse. The administration doesn’t sweat such monikers, embracing their array of supporters in the pursuit of saving America—awkward dance moves and all.

Now, shifting gears to the broader picture, there’s a nuanced debate over immigration’s effect on other domestic policy issues. High housing costs? Check. Immigration’s playing a part, said the administration, though progress is being made with rents reportedly cooling down. High gas prices, though—a “blip” tied to other geopolitical hiccups, waiting for that promised downturn. And let’s not forget food prices, another bubbling pot in this grand stew of policy priorities.

Lastly, the Trump camp paints a broad picture of recovery from years of bipartisan woes. Gone, they say, are the days of shipping jobs away and letting illegal aliens saturate communities. Despite inheriting a mess, they’re all about the resolve to forge a path of progress. Keep in mind, claims of mass deportations contributing to a renewed America spotlight just how deeply immigration issues are woven into the fabric of today’s hot-button debates. While the administration showcases strides in reducing welfare dependency and hospital wait times, the dialogue on immigration remains a ladder with many, many rungs to climb.