California Governor Gavin Newsom faced sharp criticism after his podcast interview with conservative strategist Steve Bannon backfired, drawing accusations of political grandstanding and weakness. Newsom’s decision to platform Bannon—a key architect of the MAGA movement—sparked outrage from both Democrats and Republicans who accused him of legitimizing divisive figures. During the conversation, Bannon mocked Newsom’s relationship with tech billionaires like Elon Musk, sarcastically claiming the governor only turned on them once they supported former President Trump.
Newsom’s attempts to find common ground with Bannon on economic issues fell flat, with critics calling the move tone-deaf. Former GOP Congressman Adam Kinzinger, who clashed with Bannon during the January 6 investigations, blasted Newsom for “building up” a figure many conservatives had fought to marginalize. Even Democratic Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear condemned the interview, stating Bannon shouldn’t be given “oxygen on any platform” due to his history of promoting conspiracy theories.
The backlash intensified as commentators like Dave Rubin highlighted clips where Bannon outmaneuvered Newsom, painting the governor as unprepared for tough debates. Rubin argued Newsom’s podcast venture revealed a lack of serious leadership, asking why a sitting governor would prioritize media appearances over fixing California’s problems. Meanwhile, Newsom defended his outreach to conservatives, claiming Democrats need to abandon “toxic” elitism and engage voters who feel dismissed by progressive policies.
His remarks about transgender athletes and criticism of the term “Latinx” further alienated liberal allies, who accused him of abandoning core Democratic values to court moderates. Polls show most Americans agree with Newsom’s stance on these issues, but progressives called it a betrayal. The governor’s team insists the podcast aims to bridge political divides, but critics see it as a thinly veiled attempt to rebrand himself for a future presidential run—a strategy that risks alienating his base without guaranteeing broader appeal.
Newsom’s podcast missteps have exposed deeper rifts within the Democratic Party. While he argues the left needs to stop “talking past” working-class voters, his methods have sparked accusations of opportunism. The spectacle of a California Democrat cozying up to Trump allies has left many questioning whether Newsom’s strategy is about unity or self-promotion. As the governor doubles down on his media experiment, the fallout underscores the challenges facing Democrats in reconnecting with voters ahead of the 2028 election cycle.